May 7, 1901

IND

William Findlay Maclean

Independent Conservative

Mr. MACLEAN.

Can the Solicitor General give us any information concerning a report of a new court for the empire or some improvement on the judicial of the Privy Council ?

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The SOLICITOR GENERAL.

I should be glad to give my hon. friend the information, but as the Prime Minister has just come into the Chamber, he is the proper channel of information of that kind. I may explain to the Prime Minister that, in connection with the penitentiaries, the hon. gentleman (Mr. Maclean) wishes some information about a court for the empire.

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IND

William Findlay Maclean

Independent Conservative

Mr. MACLEAN.

The Solicitor General (Hon. Mr. Fitzpatrick) was on his feet, and in connection with an item relating to his department, I asked him whether he was in a position to tell the committee what truth there was in the report of an extension of the Judicial Committee of the Privy Council-

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The SOLICITOR GENERAL.

A reorganization.

Mr. MACLEAN-or a court for the empire. I wished to know what truth there was in

it, and whether the government of this country has been consulted in it.

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The PRIME MINISTER.

The only truth in the statement is, that the government of this country, as well as those of the other self-governing colonies, have been invited to a conference in England to consider that matter, and we shall send a delegate some time in May or June.

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L-C

Edward Hackett

Liberal-Conservative

Mr. HACKETT.

This item for Mr. McKay appears to be a large item. How long was he engaged, and at what rate of pay 1

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The SOLICITOR GENERAL.

The auditor was engaged for 52 days, for which he was paid $25 a day, he paying his own expenses. There were 99 days for assistants' time.

Administration of Justice-Penitentiaries-St. Vincent de Paul-To pay Hector fussier award for damages caused to his property by penitentiary sewerage and for costs and expenses, $1,922.08.

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CON

Frederick Debartzch Monk

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MONK.

Will Mr. Lussier accept this amount, and will he be satisfied with it ?

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The SOLICITOR GENERAL.

I am not sure that he is satisfied, but he is obliged to accept. He proceeded by petition of right, claiming $4,000. After his petition had proceeded a certain way in the courts, it was decided to refer the case to a referee, the understanding being that all parties should abide by his award. Mr. Lussier has protested, but the amount, I think, was reasonable. It is true he has suffered some damage, but I do not think he has suffered anything like the amount claimed.

Administration of Justice-Dominion Police- Canal Protection Service-Further amount required, $12,000.

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The SOLICITOR GENERAL.

This is in connection with the whole system of canals.

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CON

David Henderson

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. HENDERSON.

Has that $12,000 been expended yet ?

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The SOLICITOR GENERAL.

This is required to continue the service of protecting the canals, at its present strength. We have maintained this service for the last two years. I may say that the cost of protection has been heretofore about $4,000 a month, and the rate of pay of constables has varied from $1.50 to $2. It is the same service that was inaugurated two years ago at a time when hon. gentlemen will agree it was prudent to adopt this system.

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CON

Frederick Debartzch Monk

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MONK.

Does this extend over the Lachine canal ?

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The SOLICITOR GENERAL.

I think it is principally for the Welland canal.

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CON

Frederick Debartzch Monk

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MONK.

Because during the last election we had a great many people guarding the canal from Lachine to Montreal.

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LIB

Charles Fitzpatrick (Solicitor General of Canada)

Liberal

Mr. FITZPATRICK.

Yukon Territory-Administration of Justice- Additional amount required for maintenance of prisoners, $10,000.

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The SOLICITOR GENERAL.

The Mounted Police Department reports that the rate heretofore allowed of $1 per day for maintenance of prisoners is too small, and they ask for $2 per diem. This necessitates doubling the present vote.

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CON

David Henderson

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. HENDERSON.

It is a very extravagant estimate. In our jails throughout the province of Ontario prisoners are well maintained on from five to ten cents per day. $2 a day is a most extravagant estimate for the support of a prisoner. They must be provided for very lavishly indeed. I think they must feed them on the same fare that they provide for the high court judges out there.

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The MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE.

The hon. gentleman must be mistaken when he says that prisoners are maintained for from five to ten cents per day. That will not supply food that will maintain a man in health in any country in the world.

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CON

David Henderson

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. HENDERSON.

I think the Minister of Agriculture must not have read the report of the Minister of Justice very lately, or he would have found that such is the case. I am speaking entirely from memory, but I am confident that in my own county it does not cost anything like ten cents a day to maintain a prisoner, and they are well fed, and get fat.

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May 7, 1901