March 29, 1901

LIB

Thomas Osborne Davis

Liberal

Mr. DAVIS.

I would like to ask the hon. gentleman a question. If he holds that the Auditor General is paring down those accounts because they are crooked, I would draw his attention to the statement made by tlie hon. member for Alberta (Mr. Oliver), that he said he would pay what was right. If he disputes the accounts, let him pay such amounts as are not disputed. That is all we are asking for.

Topic:   WAYS AND MEANS-EMPLOYMENT OF CHINESE AND JAPANESE.
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CON

Nathaniel Clarke Wallace

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. WALLACE.

I would suggest that the hon. member for Saskatchewan should buy up the claims. He might find it as profitable as dealing in scrip.

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LIB

Thomas Osborne Davis

Liberal

Mr. DAVIS.

I did not get any scrip myself. The hon. member for West Toronto has it all corraled.

Topic:   WAYS AND MEANS-EMPLOYMENT OF CHINESE AND JAPANESE.
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CON

Nathaniel Clarke Wallace

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. WALLACE.

We know that the Auditor General is performing his duties conscientiously. He has an able and competent stall, who will not be hoodwinked by any bogus accounts which may be sent in, but who will protect the treasury of the country. That is what the Auditor General is there for, and he is doing his duty ably and well, and his course should be endorsed by this House.

Topic:   WAYS AND MEANS-EMPLOYMENT OF CHINESE AND JAPANESE.
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CON

Nathaniel Clarke Wallace

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. WALLACE.

The hon. member can have tlie floor when I get through.

Topic:   WAYS AND MEANS-EMPLOYMENT OF CHINESE AND JAPANESE.
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LIB

Charles Marcil

Liberal

Mr. MARCIL (Bonaventure).

I merely want to ask a question.

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CON

Nathaniel Clarke Wallace

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. WALLACE.

What is the question V

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LIB

Charles Marcil

Liberal

Mr. MARCIL (Bonaventure).

The question is whether in the township of Arran, in North Bruce, the sole question discussed was not the vote which was given in this House on the coronation oath ?

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CON

Nathaniel Clarke Wallace

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. WALLACE.

That is a conundrum, and I give it up. The hon. member has evidently been sleeping for a week or two, and has not kept track of affairs. Now, Mr. Speaker, it appears to me that this strike of proposed government officials is a most serious matter. We are told that these gentlemen, who, we will assume, performed services for the country last November. are not yet paid. The Auditor General is, I understand, the watch-dog of the treasury. When he finds crooked accounts, lie does not pass them. If an account is straight, it goes straight through, but when

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LIB

Thomas Osborne Davis

Liberal

Mr. DAVIS.

Does the hon'. member say that he is doing his duty in not seeing that these parties have been paid for five months ?

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CON

Nathaniel Clarke Wallace

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. WALLACE.

It is as well to be accurate. These accounts have been made up and sent in; but they have not been paid, for tlie reason that they were wrong. The Auditor General sends them back and says that under tlie regulations they are entitled to be paid for services rendered, and nothing more; hut these men were out as electioneering agents. They were the same class of men as those who were gyrating in North Bruce in the recent election, and they thought that they would be paid for services as electioneers in North Bruce.

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LIB

Thomas Osborne Davis

Liberal

Mr. DAVIS.

Chamberlain was not there.

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CON

Nathaniel Clarke Wallace

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. WALLACE.

And now they discover their mistake. Parliament lias no money to recoup them, and now they come to the House with a grievance and ask that the House shall punish the Auditor General,

\ who is performing his duty by protecting

the treasury and trying to deal fairly hy every man who has performed services for the government. If these gentlemen were anxious to have the business settled properly, they would not come to the House and air their grievances here, hut they would go to the Public Accounts Committee, where the Auditor General would be present, and where they could make any charge, and have it fully explained by* the Auditor General in a proper business way. But that is not what they undertook to do, and in that regard they are not looking after the interests of the country. The Auditor General must be ready to defend any account of his or his department, and I have no doubt that if the matter is brought up before the Public Accounts Committee, he will defend and explain his course, and justify whatever may have been done or whatever may have been left undone. So that, If these hon. gentlemen have a grievance, let them go to the Public Accounts Committee and have it fully investigated. These men have not apparently full confidence in that government surplus of $8,000,000. They think the treasury is about empty and that they may never see their money. I think we might reassure them on that point, that the government will always pay its honest debts.

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Motion agreed to, resolution considered in committee, reported, read the first and the second time, and agreed to. Tiie MINISTER OF FINANCE moved for leave to introduce Bill (No. 114) for granting to His Majesty certain sums of money required for defraying certain expenses of the public sendee for the financial year ending the 30th of June, 1901, and for other purposes relating to the public service. Motion agreed to, Bill read the first and the second time, and House went into committee thereon.


CON

Robert Laird Borden (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BORDEN (Halifax).

I do not wish to delay my hon. friend's Bill, but there is certain correspondence with reference to some items of the public works and some papers with respect to the building of the Canadian exhibition at Paris, which will have to be discussed. I presume there will be no objection to our discussing these matters on other items.

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The PRIME MINISTER.

There can be no objection to any question being raised with regard to these matters when the other estimates are before the House.

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CON

Nathaniel Clarke Wallace

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. WALLACE.

Does the $30,000 complete the expenditure for the Paris exhibition ?

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The MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE.

1 think so.

Bill reported, read the third time, and passed.

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CON

Nathaniel Clarke Wallace

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. WALLACE.

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INSPECTION OF FRUIT PACKAGES.

March 29, 1901