February 22, 1901

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Frederick Debartzch Monk

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MONK.

What proportion of expenditure is attributable to repairs and what to maintenance ?

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The MINISTER OF MARINE AND FISHERIES.

Nothing special. Every year we come down with the supplementary estimates whenever the repairs are more than the ordinary.

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James Clancy

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. CLANCY.

Why is this increase from year to year in the maintenance and repairs to government steamers ? In 1900 the amount was $145,000, and in 1901, $160,000.

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The MINISTER OF MARINE AND FISHERIES.

I can hold out no hope of the expenditure being any less. It will rather be likely to be increased, because there is an additional steamer this winter. We have two steamers on the route trying to keep winter communication between Prince Edward Island and the mainland.

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The MINISTER OF MARINE AND FISHERIES.

Both were frozen in fourteen days, but are running again. The Stanley got out of the ice yesterday, and the Minto three or four days ago. $160,000 is the ordinary sum voted, and when any special repairs are required we ask for a supplementary estimate.

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Charles Hibbert Tupper

Conservative (1867-1942)

Sir CHARLES HIBBERT TUPPER.

What was the amount expended last year, on which this estimate was based ?

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The MINISTER OF MARINE AND FISHERIES.

There was $160,000 spent, and $20,000 supplementary voted, or $180,000, including repairs.

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Charles Hibbert Tupper

Conservative (1867-1942)

Sir CHARLES HIBBERT TUPPER.

Why not make it $180,000 this year ?

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The MINISTER OF MARINE AND FISHERIES.

Because the practice has been to vote the repairs in the supplementary estimates. I think the better plan would be just to bring down the exact sum, hut I simply follow the practice.

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Charles Hibbert Tupper

Conservative (1867-1942)

Sir CHARLES HIBBERT TUPPER.

I think that is a new practice. The system on which the estimates used to be based a few years ago, took into consideration the total expenditure. Regardless of whether a boat was obtained by original or supplementary estimate. Bringing the estimates down in this way, a steady increase might escape the attention of the Committee. Evidently, $180,000 is the amount the hon. minister will require, for that was the amount last year and the year before; and, as I understand him, he does not hold out any hope that he will require any less this year.

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The MINISTER OF MARINE AND FISHERIES.

Certainly not.

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Charles Hibbert Tupper

Conservative (1867-1942)

Sir CHARLES HIBBERT TUPPER.

Referring to the question put by my hon. friend (Mr. Monk), can the hon. minister tell us how much of that is apportioned to maintenance and how much to repairs ?

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The MINISTER OF MARINE AND FISHERIES.

Last year there was a supplementary vote for the Min to of $12,869, and alterations to the Aberdeen, $7,000. I shall propose this year's supplementary estimates for alterations and repairs to the Druid, the Aberdeen and some other steamers. I shall certainly require the whole $180,000. There will be the expense of running the additional steamer this winter.

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Charles Hibbert Tupper

Conservative (1867-1942)

Sir CHARLES HIBBERT TUPPER.

But, what I wished to ascertain is, how much of the expenditure is for maintenance and how much for repairs ?

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The MINISTER OF MARINE AND FISHERIES.

Substantially the whole of this is for maintenance-small ordinary repairs are included. Where there is a special expenditure amounting to five, six or seven thousand dollars, I intend to ask the House for a special vote, naming the amount and the vessel to be repaired.

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Charles Hibbert Tupper

Conservative (1867-1942)

Sir CHARLES HIBBERT TUPPER.

The hon. minister does not understand me, 1 take it that his officers have given him in detail the estimated expenditure for the maintenance of each ship, and also for the repairs of each ship. I do not ask for these details, but I desire to know how much is to be spent for repairs and how much for maintenance.

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The MINISTER OF MARINE AND FISHERIES.

There was $21,000 spent last year for repairs; the rest of the $180,000, was lor maintenance.

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Charles Hibbert Tupper

Conservative (1867-1942)

Sir CHARLES HIBBERT TUPPER.

How many ships has the hon. minister under his charge ?

The MINISTER OF MARINE AND

FISHERIES. We have all that we have had heretofore, with the Stanley in addition this winter.

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Charles Hibbert Tupper

Conservative (1867-1942)

Sir CHARLES HIBBERT TUPPER.

And the Aberdeen ?

The MINISTER OF MARINE AND

FISHERIES. The Aberdeen, the Lands-downe, the Druid, the Minto, the Stanley and the Quadra.

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February 22, 1901