February 22, 1901


Motion agreed to, and House went into Committee.


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The MINISTER OF FINANCE.

I propose that we take up the Estimates of the Department of Marine and Fisheries.

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Charles Hibbert Tupper

Conservative (1867-1942)

Sir CHARLES HIBBERT TUPPER.

I thought the government were going to proceed, as suggested, in the order in which the departments appear in the Estimates. It was mentioned that that course would be very convenient, as members would know what to expect, unless the government said the night before tnat they would take up something special.

The MINISTER OFt FINANCE. I quite agree with the hon. gentleman that it would be convenient to proceed in that way, and I had anticipated that the Solicitor General would be here to proceed with the Estimates of the Department of Justice, which are next in order ; but, as he is not here, I have asked my hon. friend the Minister of Marine and Fisheries to fill up the gap. Perhaps the Solicitor General will be here later, when we may proceed with the Estimates of the Department of Justice.

Maintenance and repairs to Government

steamers $160,000

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The MINISTER OF MARINE AND FISHERIES (Sir Louis Davies).

That is the ordinary amount voted every year. There will be an additional amount in the supplementary estimates as usual.

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Charles Hibbert Tupper

Conservative (1867-1942)

Sir CHARLES HIBBERT TUPPER.

Can the hon. gentleman give any information concerning the repairs to the Minto. I understand that when she arrived at Charlottetown she was immediately put into dock and had to be repaired before attempting her season's work.

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The MINISTER OF MARINE AND FISHERIES.

The hon. gentleman was incorrectly informed. The Minto, on her voyage out from England, encountered one of the most severe storms her captain said he had ever experienced in the Atlantic. Some parts of her deck fittings were smashed by the ice, and the iron work twisted, but this had nothing to do with the hull or any material part of the vessel, and there never was any complaint against the builder. But certain changes, not very material, and almost always incidental to a new boat, had to be made. After her first winter's experience in the ice, the Minto had to go into dock to be re-riveted, but the same thing occurred when the Stanley was built, after she had a season's experience in the ice. There was, however, a larger number of loose rivets in the Minto than in the Stanley, and I communicated direct to Gourley Bros., asking them whether, considering the number of rivets that had to be re-riveted, they should not bear their share of the expense. They replied, giving in detail the great pains taken in their shipyard to have everything done in first-class order, and asked me, as they could not

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Charles Tupper

Sir CHARLES HIBBERT TTJPPER.

How much was the cost ?

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The MINISTER OF MARINE AND FISHERIES.

$4,900 for re-riveting and putting it up.

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Charles Hibbert Tupper

Conservative (1867-1942)

Sir CHARLES HIBBERT TUPPER.

How much was the cost at Charlottetown, before the Minto was regularly in commission ?

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The MINISTER OF MARINE AND FISHERIES.

I do not recollect, but I stated the amount in debate last year.

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Charles Hibbert Tupper

Conservative (1867-1942)

Sir CHARLES HIBBERT TUPPER.

The Miuto, I presume, was built after tender, and a regular contract drawn up ?

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The MINISTER OF MARINE AND FISHERIES.

Yes.

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Charles Hibbert Tupper

Conservative (1867-1942)

Sir CHARLES HIBBERT TUPPER.

Did the hon. gentleman ask, as a matter of favour or fair-play or as a matter of law, that the contractor should contribute towards the expense of re-riveting.

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The MINISTER OF MARINE AND FISHERIES.

I have no claim as a matter of law at all. I simply submitted the facts to them as first-class shipbuilders. I stated that after one year's experience in the ice, 1,300 rivets had to be re-riveted, and asked them could they afford this. I suggested that they should pay one-half. As a matter of law, she was certified in first-class condition, and the captain of the Minto intimates that he never had as good a boat before, and is thoroughly satisfied with her in every respect. We have no fault to find, except that, as the resuit of the year's work, more rivets require re-riveting than should be the ease.

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Charles Hibbert Tupper

Conservative (1867-1942)

Sir CHARLES HIBBERT TUPPER.

How does the cost of maintenance compare with that of the Stanley ?

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The MINISTER OF MARINE AND FISHERIES.

A little more. The Minto is 25 feet longer and proportionately broader and has a few more men, but the cost is very little more.

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The MINISTER OF MARINE AND FISHERIES.

Captain Finlayson, promoted from the Stanley, and the first officer of the Stanley is the captain.

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February 22, 1901