February 14, 1901

MANITOBA SCHOOL LANDS.

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Mr. A. A. C.@

LaRIVIERE (Provencher) moved for :

Copy of all memorials, petitions, resolutions and correspondence in reference to the transfer to the government of the province of Manitoba of school lands and funds already accumulated from sales thereof.

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The PRIME MINISTER (Rt. Hon. Sir Wilfrid Laurier).

There is no objection whatever to bringing down the correspondence which took place before the present year. But, my hon. friend (Mr. LaRiviere) may be aware that, during the present year, we have received a new petition on this subject, the correspondence upon which is still pending. We could not well bring down that correspondence. If my hon. friend will restrict his motion to correspondence previous to the year 1901, there will be no objection to it. And, later on. when the correspondence is concluded, there will be no objection, if the hon. gentleman will renew his motion, to bringing down that correspondence also.

Mr. LaRIVIERE. I would rather withdraw the motion in the meantime.

Motion withdrawn.

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CHARTERED CORPORATIONS.


On the motion for : List of all corporations now doing business in Canada under charter of the Dominion government. The number receiving subsidies by cash or land grants and the amount of such subsidy attached to each.-Mr. Smith (Vancouver).


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The MINISTER OP RAILWAYS AND CANALS (Hon. A. G. Blair).

I would like to ascertain from the hon. gentleman whether his motion contemplates the inclusion of any other than railway corporations, whether he desires to get information with respect to any other corporate body than such as may be operating a railway.

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Ralph Smith

Liberal

Mr. RALPH SMITH (Vancouver).

I desire to include every corporation that has a charter from the government, that lias a privilege of any kind.

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The MINISTER OP RAILWAYS AND CANALS.

I would like to point out to my hon. friend that he is imposing a very arduous task upon that department of the government which has charge of the records of these corporations. I do not know that it can be ascertained and stated to this House now what corporations are actually doing business in Canada that have actually been chartered under Dominion legislation, and I am quite sure that there are none such which have been receiving bonuses and subsidies, unless it may be some companies that have been perhaps bonused as manufacturing concerns producing steel,

or iron, or some such material product. The hon. gentleman must have some definite object in his mind, and I would suggest that he could best attain that object by so framing his resolution as to include it definitely, instead of requiring the return of an immense mass of matter that would simply be useless to him, and that would involve a large amount of labour in its preparation. If he would amend the present resolution by putting the word ' railway ' before the word ' corporations,' and say 1 now incorporated or being operated in Canada,' he could later introduce another resolution covering the additional ground that he has in his mind.

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Robert Laird Borden (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. R. L. BORDEN (Halifax).

Possibly the motion as framed does not strictly cover what the hon. gentleman wishes to get at. The words ' charter of the Dominion government ' might be restricted to companies formed under the Joint Stock Companies Act, and might not include corporations created by special Act of this parliament.

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The MINISTER OF RAILWAYS AND CANALS.

It would include both, would it not ?

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Robert Laird Borden (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BORDEN (Halifax).

A charter of the Dominion government would hardly include a company chartered by special Act of this parliament. I mention this, because I thought it possible that the hon. gentleman might desire to include such corporations.

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The MINISTER OF RAILWAYS AND CANALS.

Let it stand.

Motion allowed to stand.

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MOTION AGREED TO WITHOUT DISCUSSION.


Return showing :- 1. The dates of the erection of the Dominion grain elevators at St. John, N.B., and at Halifax, and the cost of each. 2. The amount of grain handled during each year since said elevators were built, giving the amount of each kind of grain handled by each elevator each year, and how much of each kind of grain was received at each elevator each year for export and exported. 3. The number of officials employed at each elevator each year and their salaries. 4. All other expenses paid each year on account of each of the said elevators. 5. The gross cash receipts at each of the said elevators during each year since they have been built.-(Mr. Wilson.) [DOT]


ADJOURNMENT-HARBOUR AT MIDLAND.


The PRIME MINISTER (Rt. Hon. Sir Wilfrid Laurier) moved the adjournment of the House.


CON

William Humphrey Bennett

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. W. H. BENNETT (East Simcoe).

Before the House adjourns, I would like to

ask the First Minister to allow me to make an explanation in reference to an item that appeared in the Montreal Gazette this morning. Under the heading ' The Harbour at Midland ' there is a statement made that a deputation waited yesterday upon the Minister of Public Works (Hon. Mr. Tarte), and the writer uses these words :

The representation is that by increasing the present depth of water twenty feet, the grain shipments can be doubled. . . . Many heavy steamships now unloading at Buffalo could and would come to Midland, were there sufficient depth of water.

I wi%U to take the earliest opportunity of correcting that statement. If such a statement were made to the minister it is entirely incorrect, because there is already at that port considerably over twenty feet of water, and vessels carrying over a quarter of a million bushels of grain are to be seen there at all times. I can only assume that the gentleman who sent the despatch was wrongly informed. I hope the information that was given to the Minister of Public Works as to the requirements of that harbour was more correct than the information given the gentleman who sent this despatch.

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THE BUDGET SPEECH.

CON

Robert Laird Borden (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. R. L. BORDEN (Halifax).

Before the motion to adjourn passes, I wish to say to the Minister of Finance (Mr. Fielding), that we would like to have as much notice as possible of the day on which he will deliver his budget speech. I do not suggest that the date be fixed now, I merely mention that we would like to have as much notice as possible.

The MINISTER OF FINANCE (Hon. W.

S. Fielding). The usual course is to give several days' notice, and I will endeavour to follow that.

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February 14, 1901